Mossberg SA-28ga .515 Trulock 8.5x9

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Still testing this little unit out.
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Very impressive. Are those handloads?
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:thumbup: There's nothing going to survive that pattern.
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dustyroads wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 8:10 pm Very impressive. Are those handloads?
Yes sir, been working all week on that set up. Might improve or get worse for the weeks over. :violent1:
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Hobbes_mobile wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 8:10 pm :thumbup: There's nothing going to survive that pattern.
Thank you sir.
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That core is nasty.
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guesswho wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 8:37 pm That core is nasty.
Your right...if I can hit him with that core it will be nasty. :lol:
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It will kill!
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Great on a non-moving target, But IMO you need to evaluate a .520- .525 for a good core, but killing 20" which you don't have in that pattern.
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Looks good!
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decoykrvr wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:17 pm Great on a non-moving target, But IMO you need to evaluate a .520- .525 for a good core, but killing 20" which you don't have in that pattern.
Yes sir oh how well I know. I'm trying to break records right now and just trying to show hunters what to expect. I do have post with real good patterns from Indian Creek .520 SA-28ga. for killing patterns.
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decoykrvr wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:17 pm Great on a non-moving target, But IMO you need to evaluate a .520- .525 for a good core, but killing 20" which you don't have in that pattern.
Just curious, what does it take in the 20" to kill a turkey ethically?
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Wow! That is a hammer
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jsh909 wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 5:50 am Wow! That is a hammer
Me and ole hammer is going to spend a lot time in the woods next year.
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Riverrat wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 11:43 pm
decoykrvr wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:17 pm Great on a non-moving target, But IMO you need to evaluate a .520- .525 for a good core, but killing 20" which you don't have in that pattern.
Just curious, what does it take in the 20" to kill a turkey ethically?
250 is my goal in a single barrel gun, and in no case, would I accept a pattern with less than 200 in any gauge except .410 bore.
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Spuriosity wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 6:57 am
Riverrat wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 11:43 pm
decoykrvr wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 10:17 pm Great on a non-moving target, But IMO you need to evaluate a .520- .525 for a good core, but killing 20" which you don't have in that pattern.
Just curious, what does it take in the 20" to kill a turkey ethically?
250 is my goal in a single barrel gun, and in no case, would I accept a pattern with less than 200 in any gauge except .410 bore.
Are you saying I need 250 in the 20” plus 300 in the 10” to ethically kill
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Riverrat wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 6:54 am
jsh909 wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 5:50 am Wow! That is a hammer
Me and ole hammer is going to spend a lot time in the woods next year.
Good luck out there brother, hope you make a pile of them!
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Personally, I like/prefer a pattern which has almost even numbers in both the 10" and 20" with, essentially, no voids. In my experimentation, and talking w/ TSS loaders w/ more experience than me, I've found some of my 50/50 duplex loads will give me the patterns which I like. I evaluate patterns from 20 yards out to @ 60 yards, and my personal preference was reinforced this spring on a gobbler at 15 yards. Three gobblers worked in w/ a flock of hens and jakes which were walking, calling. and looking w/ the gobblers surrounded by the other birds like a moving screen. I had no clear shots on the gobblers until one finally cleared the flock just before they all dropped out of sight into an adjacent creek bottom. I gave him a loud cluck which shot his head and neck straight. I let the flock settle down and clear the area before retrieving the gobbler and found the wad within 2 feet from where he had been shot. My necropsy revealed only a couple of pellets in the head, 2 or 3 in the upper left breast, but the neck for 6 inches was shredded. IMO, a 40 yard pattern w/ a dense core is a recipe for missing at extremely close ranges and I kill the majority of my birds within 40 yards.
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FYI! William Lambert (Sumtoy) has done a bunch of work w/ the SA-28 and is selling a .522 choke. A did some tweaking on a fiends SA-28 and he has obtained one of Sumtoy's chokes, but has yet to evaluate it. I'll let you know how it patterns and w/ what loads after we play with it.
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decoykrvr wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 9:31 am Personally, I like/prefer a pattern which has almost even numbers in both the 10" and 20" with, essentially, no voids. In my experimentation, and talking w/ TSS loaders w/ more experience than me, I've found some of my 50/50 duplex loads will give me the patterns which I like. I evaluate patterns from 20 yards out to @ 60 yards, and my personal preference was reinforced this spring on a gobbler at 15 yards. Three gobblers worked in w/ a flock of hens and jakes which were walking, calling. and looking w/ the gobblers surrounded by the other birds like a moving screen. I had no clear shots on the gobblers until one finally cleared the flock just before they all dropped out of sight into an adjacent creek bottom. I gave him a loud cluck which shot his head and neck straight. I let the flock settle down and clear the area before retrieving the gobbler and found the wad within 2 feet from where he had been shot. My necropsy revealed only a couple of pellets in the head, 2 or 3 in the upper left breast, but the neck for 6 inches was shredded. IMO, a 40 yard pattern w/ a dense core is a recipe for missing at extremely close ranges and I kill the majority of my birds within 40 yards.
I totally understand what you’re saying. I’ve shot my fair share of tss down range. 15 yards with any gun or choke shooting tss is going to be extremely tight. I have several chokes for this gun. I was just trying to post a pattern showing how tight these guns shoot with particular choke.
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It’ll kill river rat. Don’t listen to the naysayers.
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OLE RASPY wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 7:41 pm It’ll kill river rat. Don’t listen to the naysayers.
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There is a real difference between a naysayer and a realist. I spent a lot of time this spring working w/ a fairly new turkey hunter who had just purchased a Franchi Affinity 3 which we turned up and set up as a turkey gun. The guy was obsessed about high numbers in the 10" due to, too much internet, and I finally sold him on the efficacy of an even 20" pattern which we obtained w/ an 1 5/8 ounce load of 9.5's which was a viable turkey killing pattern out to 55 yards. What TSS will do at 40 yards in the 10" is impressive, but at some point, even for seasoned/knowledgeable shooters the loss of "wiggle room" w/ patterns which are too tight, becomes a handicap. I wish every gobbler stood stock still prior to the shot, but we all know that that's not reality.
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decoykrvr wrote: June 3rd, 2023, 9:02 pm There is a real difference between a naysayer and a realist. I spent a lot of time this spring working w/ a fairly new turkey hunter who had just purchased a Franchi Affinity 3 which we turned up and set up as a turkey gun. The guy was obsessed about high numbers in the 10" due to, too much internet, and I finally sold him on the efficacy of an even 20" pattern which we obtained w/ an 1 5/8 ounce load of 9.5's which was a viable turkey killing pattern out to 55 yards. What TSS will do at 40 yards in the 10" is impressive, but at some point, even for seasoned/knowledgeable shooters the loss of "wiggle room" w/ patterns which are too tight, becomes a handicap. I wish every gobbler stood stock still prior to the shot, but we all know that that's not reality.
I'd rather shoot 9s if I'm going to shoot anything bigger than a 28. I find that the larger shot seems to kill better, all things considered. A 8.5 x 9 duplex like river rat is shooting sounds appealing too, think I might give it a try!!
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I've got a 20 gauge 50/50 duplex of 8's over 9 1/2's which has almost the same pellet count as a load of straight 9's. It's a killer load which has both the energy/knockdown and pellet density. My go to hunting load is a 50/50 of 9's over 9 1/2's which has yet to lose a gobbler and has killed a bunch of gobblers.
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