410 Tristar Advice

BeardBuster · Post by **BeardBuster** » January 23rd, 2021, 8:44 am

Need some advice on what I can do to improve my Tristar G2 patterns. I’m getting decent numbers but not as good as what I often see posted here.
Also seems to be variable. I am running a dry bore snake between shots.
Should I try a IC 385 or 390?
Thanks

Tristar Viper G2 410
7/8 oz handloads 9.5s
IC#1 380 - 187
IC#2 380 - 149
IC#3 380 - 163
IC Avg - 166

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wchadw · Post by **wchadw** » January 23rd, 2021, 9:05 am

I’m getting 185 avg with jebs xfull and about that with Sumtoy
Don’t think you are going to get too much better than 190
Range. I tried jebs Sumtoy cnc factory choke. Factory choke was awful

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wchadw · Post by **wchadw** » January 23rd, 2021, 10:20 am

wchadw wrote:I’m getting 185 avg with jebs xfull and about that with Sumtoy
Don’t think you are going to get too much better than 190
Range. I tried jebs Sumtoy cnc factory choke. Factory choke was awful

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Might also drop to 1oz of 10s. If you don’t hand load foxtrox sells
I hand load 1oz 10s and get 195 range with the jebs

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Jstocks · Post by **Jstocks** » January 23rd, 2021, 1:03 pm

Pattern sounds really good. If you don’t mind me asking, is there a hole in the pattern or are you looking for more consistent?

BeardBuster · Post by **BeardBuster** » January 23rd, 2021, 1:13 pm

Jstocks wrote:Pattern sounds really good. If you don’t mind me asking, is there a hole in the pattern or are you looking for more consistent?

Pattern does not appear to be “blown”. No obvious holes like it’s “over choked”. I would like it to be a little more consistent and I would also like to increase my numbers.

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Post by **Hoobilly** » January 23rd, 2021, 5:26 pm

How many oz load? I’ve only seen others patterns and not sure if they polished their barrels or not. But have seen 190-220 in the 10 with the 380 Indiancreek and my foxtrot 383 strokers 9.5’s. (7/8oz)

guesswho · Post by **guesswho** » January 23rd, 2021, 5:34 pm

166? I’d hunt it!

BeardBuster · Post by **BeardBuster** » January 23rd, 2021, 5:43 pm

hoobilly wrote:How many oz load? I’ve only seen others patterns and not sure if they polished their barrels or not. But have seen 190-220 in the 10 with the 380 Indiancreek and my foxtrot 383 strokers 9.5’s. (7/8oz)

My handloads are 7/8 oz 9.5s. I’d like improve my numbers closer to that 200 mark. Just don’t know if it’s worth trying a more open choke or not. My
experience with my other guns would tell me I need to go a little tighter but I don’t think IC makes anything tighter than 380...isn’t that correct?

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Post by **Hoobilly** » January 23rd, 2021, 8:32 pm

I helped test 410 chokes with Indiancreek. We found that 380 was really tight.

The biggest thing about 410’s is that different loads want a different choke. I’ve found a 7/8 load in my invector guns wants more open while the duplex or heavier load wants it tighter.

But I’ve sold a lot of the 7/8 9.5’s and the 380 from what I’ve seen in the Mobil does best.

WV Ridge Reaper · Post by **WV Ridge Reaper** » January 24th, 2021, 2:58 pm

I have the same gun and run the 380..Will do 200 plus..the highest I have done was 218..A wise man once told me you gotta keep the 410s super clean and that’s what I do.Every time i fire a shot threw it the barrel comes off and gets scrubbed clean then swapped with alcohol..bore snake is a joke IMO

So far I gotta say that man knew what he was talking about....he claimed to have done lots of 410 testing haha

Another thing was I ran the 383 stroker load 9.5s...after season last year I gathered the stuff up to load my own 410 shells,loaded some up 3/4 different recipes and was so let down I just put stuff away and figured I’d deal with it later...which will be in the next few weeks.

So with that being said not all loads are created equally...if I was in your shoes I’d order up a box of foxtrot and clean that barrel then see what happens.

I don’t know where your located at either but it’s way way to cold here to be trying to pattern a turkey shotgun and expect great result

BeardBuster · Post by **BeardBuster** » January 25th, 2021, 6:54 am

WV Ridge Reaper wrote:I have the same gun and run the 380..Will do 200 plus..the highest I have done was 218..A wise man once told me you gotta keep the 410s super clean and that’s what I do.Every time i fire a shot threw it the barrel comes off and gets scrubbed clean then swapped with alcohol..bore snake is a joke IMO

So far I gotta say that man knew what he was talking about....he claimed to have done lots of 410 testing haha

Another thing was I ran the 383 stroker load 9.5s...after season last year I gathered the stuff up to load my own 410 shells,loaded some up 3/4 different recipes and was so let down I just put stuff away and figured I’d deal with it later...which will be in the next few weeks.

So with that being said not all loads are created equally...if I was in your shoes I’d order up a box of foxtrot and clean that barrel then see what happens.

I don’t know where your located at either but it’s way way to cold here to be trying to pattern a turkey shotgun and expect great result

Thanks for the info. I give my gun a thorough cleaning each spring and then after that the barrel never comes off until next year. Don’t want my POI to change which I’ve seen happen with some of my guns. No doubt the load recipe is likely where I need to focus. I’ll be doing some of that in February. Thanks again.

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