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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » December 24th, 2018, 11:01 pm

Have to grind the ears thinner (tabs) on the forearm to fit over the locking barrel lug that I use on my Enore to keep pin from spinning.

once that is done I will be closer to getting it sighted in. It came with a muzzle brake but you cant shoot it when using sabots.. so I sent it home with my son to see if it comes close to fitting his threaded barrels.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by Yule » December 25th, 2018, 10:09 am

Better than me. I have shot lots of sub MOA groups, out to 300 yards. Shot 3 does and 2 bucks with it, this year.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » December 25th, 2018, 10:55 am

Yule wrote:
December 25th, 2018, 10:09 am
Better than me. I have shot lots of sub MOA groups, out to 300 yards. Shot 3 does and 2 bucks with it, this year.
I’m looking forward to sighting this in and getting it ready for my nieces and daughter to get out and kill one yet this year.

Will post up how it shoots

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Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by arhuntingfool » December 25th, 2018, 6:40 pm

I have a Jeff Hankins CVA hunter 45-70 conversion. 302 grain bullet at 2600fps. It’s awesome


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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » December 25th, 2018, 10:39 pm

arhuntingfool wrote:
December 25th, 2018, 6:40 pm
I have a Jeff Hankins CVA hunter 45-70 conversion. 302 grain bullet at 2600fps. It’s awesome


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How far have you stretched that bullet out???

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by arhuntingfool » December 30th, 2018, 12:59 pm

hoobilly wrote:
arhuntingfool wrote:
December 25th, 2018, 6:40 pm
I have a Jeff Hankins CVA hunter 45-70 conversion. 302 grain bullet at 2600fps. It’s awesome


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How far have you stretched that bullet out???
Furtherest I’ve shot one was 175. Every deer so far with it is drt. The bullet reminds me of the Berger VLD design.


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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » December 30th, 2018, 1:36 pm

arhuntingfool wrote:
December 30th, 2018, 12:59 pm
hoobilly wrote:
arhuntingfool wrote:
December 25th, 2018, 6:40 pm
I have a Jeff Hankins CVA hunter 45-70 conversion. 302 grain bullet at 2600fps. It’s awesome


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How far have you stretched that bullet out???
Furtherest I’ve shot one was 175. Every deer so far with it is drt. The bullet reminds me of the Berger VLD design.


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I would like to see that bullet. My son killed his buck with my encore 209x50 using the 245gn Barnes I really would love to have a Barnes bullet in this Encore smokeless. But BigSpurs68 said it shoots so good with the sabot and the 200gn Hornady SST I probably won't mess around treating with it. When we get the CVS V2's ready then I will do some testing

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by arhuntingfool » January 4th, 2019, 8:54 am

hoobilly wrote:
December 30th, 2018, 1:36 pm
arhuntingfool wrote:
December 30th, 2018, 12:59 pm
hoobilly wrote:
How far have you stretched that bullet out???
Furtherest I’ve shot one was 175. Every deer so far with it is drt. The bullet reminds me of the Berger VLD design.


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I would like to see that bullet. My son killed his buck with my encore 209x50 using the 245gn Barnes I really would love to have a Barnes bullet in this Encore smokeless. But BigSpurs68 said it shoots so good with the sabot and the 200gn Hornady SST I probably won't mess around treating with it. When we get the CVS V2's ready then I will do some testing

http://www.kineticperformancellc.com/

You can buy a sample pack at http://www.arrowheadsporting.com/sample.html
Part number is ASG149_10 about half way down the page.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 4th, 2019, 7:03 pm

arhuntingfool wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 8:54 am

http://www.kineticperformancellc.com/

You can buy a sample pack at http://www.arrowheadsporting.com/sample.html
Part number is ASG149_10 about half way down the page.
thanks for the link on the bullets etc! :thumbup:

I still have to order the spinjag and ramrod from ASG

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by arhuntingfool » January 5th, 2019, 12:29 pm

hoobilly wrote:
arhuntingfool wrote:
January 4th, 2019, 8:54 am

http://www.kineticperformancellc.com/

You can buy a sample pack at http://www.arrowheadsporting.com/sample.html
Part number is ASG149_10 about half way down the page.
thanks for the link on the bullets etc! :thumbup:

I still have to order the spinjag and ramrod from ASG
No problem. I bought my ramrod from Jeff Hankins and spin jag from arrowhead. I’m shooting 3031 powder.


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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 5th, 2019, 8:14 pm

arhuntingfool wrote:
January 5th, 2019, 12:29 pm

No problem. I bought my ramrod from Jeff Hankins and spin jag from arrowhead. I’m shooting 3031 powder.


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I’m not gonna change what Darren found to shoot excellent in this barrel. But when we get the others converted then we will see what shoots th best.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by SpurHntr » January 20th, 2019, 12:38 pm

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Since 2014 I’ve been using only a smokeless ML
I’ll never shoot BP again outside of PA’s flintlock season.

Bullethead and I went through a dozen or more sabot-bullet combos for my Blued Savage before finding the right one.

Paid in full for a Hankins “in stock” Encore Brux barrel 45/70 HIS conversion in October, plus other goodies, but have yet to see it so I cannot comment on it as of yet.
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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by Turkinator » January 20th, 2019, 3:00 pm

mrlongbeard wrote:
December 11th, 2018, 4:25 pm
I have 2 Encore 45/70 smokeless conversions done by Jeff Hankins. They shoot lights out, incredibly accurate. My second he did for me was back in my hands 5 days from when I shipped it. Can’t say enough about his work and professionalism.
Is that the guy in dry ridge ky?

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 20th, 2019, 5:09 pm

Turkinator wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 3:00 pm
mrlongbeard wrote:
December 11th, 2018, 4:25 pm
I have 2 Encore 45/70 smokeless conversions done by Jeff Hankins. They shoot lights out, incredibly accurate. My second he did for me was back in my hands 5 days from when I shipped it. Can’t say enough about his work and professionalism.
Is that the guy in dry ridge ky?
yep hes the one.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 20th, 2019, 5:11 pm

SpurHntr wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 12:38 pm
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Since 2014 I’ve been using only a smokeless ML
I’ll never shoot BP again outside of PA’s flintlock season.

Bullethead and I went through a dozen or more sabot-bullet combos for my Blued Savage before finding the right one.

Paid in full for a Hankins “in stock” Encore Brux barrel 45/70 HIS conversion in October, plus other goodies, but have yet to see it so I cannot comment on it as of yet.
them are some dandy bucks!

lets see pictures of the brux converted when its all done and set up. Looking for warm weather and turkey season to be over then I will be getting this Encore dialed in for fall.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by appalachianassassin » January 20th, 2019, 7:15 pm

I shoot a Remington ultimate ml and a max load of bh209. It's tough
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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by SpurHntr » January 20th, 2019, 10:30 pm

hoobilly wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 5:11 pm
SpurHntr wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 12:38 pm
62B4482F-AD3E-43CE-93AB-A9E210E0FEA3.jpeg


Since 2014 I’ve been using only a smokeless ML
I’ll never shoot BP again outside of PA’s flintlock season.

Bullethead and I went through a dozen or more sabot-bullet combos for my Blued Savage before finding the right one.

Paid in full for a Hankins “in stock” Encore Brux barrel 45/70 HIS conversion in October, plus other goodies, but have yet to see it so I cannot comment on it as of yet.
them are some dandy bucks!

lets see pictures of the brux converted when its all done and set up. Looking for warm weather and turkey season to be over then I will be getting this Encore dialed in for fall.
Thanks Brice. Will share pics and range data when i get it set up.
Humpty was pushed!

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 20th, 2019, 11:29 pm

appalachianassassin wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 7:15 pm
I shoot a Remington ultimate ml and a max load of bh209. It's tough
how far and how accurate have you shot it?

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 20th, 2019, 11:32 pm

SpurHntr wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 10:30 pm

Thanks Brice. Will share pics and range data when i get it set up.
:thumbup: looking forward to it

question.. was it Sloppy that talked you about the brux conversion via Hankins?

I know he and I talked about the brux barrels a month or so ago and about Hankins etc

I will probably do a CVA SS 45/70 conversion through ASG

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by appalachianassassin » January 23rd, 2019, 7:50 pm

hoobilly wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 11:29 pm
appalachianassassin wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 7:15 pm
I shoot a Remington ultimate ml and a max load of bh209. It's tough
how far and how accurate have you shot it?
Only 260 yards so far. 100 yr zero and 6.5 moa low at 260
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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 23rd, 2019, 9:36 pm

appalachianassassin wrote:
January 23rd, 2019, 7:50 pm
hoobilly wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 11:29 pm
appalachianassassin wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 7:15 pm
I shoot a Remington ultimate ml and a max load of bh209. It's tough
how far and how accurate have you shot it?
Only 260 yards so far. 100 yr zero and 6.5 moa low at 260
that wil hunt!

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by SpurHntr » January 24th, 2019, 8:06 pm

hoobilly wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 11:32 pm
SpurHntr wrote:
January 20th, 2019, 10:30 pm

Thanks Brice. Will share pics and range data when i get it set up.
:thumbup: looking forward to it

question.. was it Sloppy that talked you about the brux conversion via Hankins?

I know he and I talked about the brux barrels a month or so ago and about Hankins etc

I will probably do a CVA SS 45/70 conversion through ASG
I never talked to anyone who owned or shot a Hankins smokeless ML. I knew of Hankins, and several other guys dabbling in custom smokeless MLs.
Sloppy did indeed mention him to me and reignited my interest in getting something in addition to my Savage.
I remain convinced that IF there was a problem with Savage MLs it was with the SS barrels, big if. With respect to the reported Savage ML failures I highly suspect either user error vs plain vindictive libel.
Humpty was pushed!

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » January 24th, 2019, 9:21 pm

SpurHntr wrote:
January 24th, 2019, 8:06 pm
I never talked to anyone who owned or shot a Hankins smokeless ML. I knew of Hankins, and several other guys dabbling in custom smokeless MLs.
Sloppy did indeed mention him to me and reignited my interest in getting something in addition to my Savage.
I remain convinced that IF there was a problem with Savage MLs it was with the SS barrels, big if. With respect to the reported Savage ML failures I highly suspect either user error vs plain vindictive libel.
Yeah a flawed SS barrel wouldnt surprise me.

but user error would be easy to do with guys not knowing the difference in weighting powder vs volume

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by Yule » February 5th, 2019, 8:15 pm

Hoo,

You need to check in with your Indiana neighbor. Contact Jeff Fisk ( 812-571-0280 ) at Be Still Creations. He is top notch when it comes to SML.

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Re: Smokeless Muzzleloader???

Post by hoobilly » February 6th, 2019, 10:00 pm

Yule wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 8:15 pm
Hoo,

You need to check in with your Indiana neighbor. Contact Jeff Fisk ( 812-571-0280 ) at Be Still Creations. He is top notch when it comes to SML.
yessir I would love to run down and meet him. Buddy of mine just bought a gun Jeff built. Gonna be set up for 6-700 yards

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