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Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 12:13 pm
by redarrow
....and here I am asking the same ol question I asked last year. I'm shooting a CVA Optima Pro in .50 cal.Using Barnes TNT BT #45180.With the EZ load sabots (blue). Well they ain't so easy . Dang near have to hammer them in .I think maybe it was Tom ICEDEDTURKES that recommended a different sabot that is much easier to load in tight bores. Any suggestions would be appreciated.I had originally used the yellow sabots,and they were worse.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 5:31 pm
by howl
Ever tried a Power Belt? They get a bad rap, but they worked fine for me. Of course, I always loaded mine a good bit lighter than most.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 6:03 pm
by redarrow
I used them awhile back and switched to Barnes and they gave me better groups. I just ordered the Harvester sabots that Tom suggested I try. Hope they work out.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 9th, 2018, 12:00 am
by OLE RASPY
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I’ll be trying this combination out next year. I cleaned both mine and my wife’s muzzleloaders today and putem up so I’ll have to shoot before next muzzleloader season

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 13th, 2018, 6:10 pm
by ncturkey
I do not know a lot about what I am about to tell you. But have you ever thought about sizing a bullet with a swagger to match your bore diameter. The smokeless Muzzleloader guys are shooting these swagged bullets in there rifles. They use a veggie wads that acts as a seal between the powder and the bullet.
This will also increase accuracy as well. I am no expert in this bullet swagging. I am hoping that Sloppy will see the post and shed more light on it. When I get time and the money I plan on getting me a bullet swagger for my Remington 700 ML Rifle.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 13th, 2018, 6:26 pm
by devastator
Why no talk about real muzzleloader hunting,like a flintlock??

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 13th, 2018, 6:53 pm
by OLE RASPY
devastator wrote: December 13th, 2018, 6:26 pm Why no talk about real muzzleloader hunting,like a flintlock??
Cause I don’t have one. :lol:

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 13th, 2018, 7:29 pm
by redarrow
Based on ICEDEDTURKES recommendation I tried the Harvester sabots. Haven't shot them yet but they loaded much easier.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 13th, 2018, 11:34 pm
by Hoobilly
redarrow wrote: December 13th, 2018, 7:29 pm Based on ICEDEDTURKES recommendation I tried the Harvester sabots. Haven't shot them yet but they loaded much easier.
Bigspurs68 also suggested for me to try the harvester wads. and to knurl the barnes bullets, or any bullets for that matter in muzzleloaders to get the full spin needed for accuracy.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 12:17 am
by ICDEDTURKES
devastator wrote: December 13th, 2018, 6:26 pm Why no talk about real muzzleloader hunting,like a flintlock??
How's the orange loin clouth, custom melted bullets, customer hickory long bow, hemade cedar arrows and fllint shape tips treating you.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 12:18 am
by ICDEDTURKES
ICDEDTURKES wrote: December 14th, 2018, 12:17 am
devastator wrote: December 13th, 2018, 6:26 pm Why no talk about real muzzleloader hunting,like a flintlock??
How's the orange loin clouth, custom melted bullets, customer hickory long bow, hemade cedar arrows and fllint shape tips treating you.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 12:00 pm
by howl
devastator wrote: December 13th, 2018, 6:26 pm Why no talk about real muzzleloader hunting,like a flintlock??
They've pretty much killed that in GA. Muzzleloader week now includes youths using centerfires. I think 9/10 shots I heard during muzzleloader week sounded like an AR15. I think it's awesome. My kids really enjoyed it.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 3:26 pm
by ncturkey
devastator wrote: December 13th, 2018, 6:26 pm Why no talk about real muzzleloader hunting,like a flintlock??
Are talking about the smoothbore smoke poles. Start up a conversation. I love smoothbore rifles.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 17th, 2018, 9:07 am
by Sloppy_Snood
Swage your bullets to 0.0005 under bore diameter and throw the sabots in the trash.

Magic happens.

Re: Here It Is ML'er Season Again ......

Posted: December 17th, 2018, 4:47 pm
by redarrow
Sloppy_Snood wrote: December 17th, 2018, 9:07 am Swage your bullets to 0.0005 under bore diameter and throw the sabots in the trash.

Magic happens.
I'm not familiar with swageing . How does one do that.With out the sabot will the bullet still engage the rifling.