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Well I finally found a 11-87 in green leaf in decent shape or so I thought.So I bought it.

Well I get it home and of course begin to tare it down for a good scrubbing..Everything went well until I got to take the stock off.

I remove the butt pad to find thisImage

I couldn't believe how bad it looked.So I sprayed some kroil oil on it,and begin to fight it..no dice...heat ? Well that did work..Let it soak over night with another douse of oil,no dice,more heat still won't budge...I've tried everything that I know and it won't move.

My last attempt was taking a 3/4 paddle bit crimping it in the vise and I actually twisted the paddle on the bit..More heat with the paddle in the vise no luck..I've actually put so much heat on it that what I think appears to be the plastic sleeve has begin to melt and the stock is loose now...So in other words I've pretty much ruined what has been a dream gun to own.

So now I need help ? I'm this far and won't give up..if I could just pick up a new stock I would of done take the saw saw to this thing


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OUCH ! Sorry about that Jason ! Can't you return it ?
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Does it function? A bunch of 11-87 and 1100's have never had the stock off. So if it shoots as it should, go kill a passel of turkeys with it!
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Never shot it but it the action worked fine,I was just doing what any person would do when they buy a used gun and clean it up good.

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Understand that, but it will probably shoot a couple more lifetimes as is. Good luck, and a great finds in that camo!
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Uh Oh,... now you have to get the bolt out, now that you've melted the plastic.
I'm not for sure on that gun, but I think the threads are at the back of the receiver, not at the other end of the bolt.
I would try taking the receiver parts out, so I could get oil to the threads. I may be wrong on this, but 870s are made that way.
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My 11 87 was 2-3 years old when I decided to change stocks. I had the exact same problem. No idea how it got that rusted. Took it to a gunsmith who put it in a vice and used a piece of flat stock and a crescent wrench. It came out. He said it is common with those guns.
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After talkin to the ol Va turkey killer I'm going to see what cableas will do about it..If they don't want to help I'll get the stock tight again and throw it in the back...I didn't plan to hunt much if any with it,I've just always wanted one to say I got one


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Yea bud,tore my SP10 stock off about 8-10 years ago to put on a shurshot from an 1187 and the whole bolt deal and recoil spring was rusted ,not bad though!!
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Get it off and buy a new bolt


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davisd9 wrote:Get it off and buy a new bolt


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The 11 87 does not have a bolt. It has a nut that threads onto an action tube. The tube is attached to the rear of the receiver. It is hollow and has a few parts inside such as the action spring.
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From what I seen you have a sleeve/rod that's come from the receiver..At the end of that rod/sleeve you have another rod that sleeves into the first one it has a pin/key that keeps them connected together.

I'm not sure how the first rod from the receiver is connected

Like I told Rick today I've messed it up bad enough,but I'm scared to let someone else touch it and ruin the stock,at that point I'm dead in the water because we know you'll never find just a stock to match up on there old camo guns.



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I think if you remove that spring you will fins a spring in there. Although it looks like it may be another rod.
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Just a update,I made it back down the road to work today and stopped at cableas.I bought the reciver and stock along.

I walked in empty handed and told them what the problem was and the guy told me to bring him the whole gun put together and they would send it out to see what could be done.

He said they would need the whole gun in case they would have to test fire it so I will get everything back together when I get home and drop it off.

He said they would eat the cost on a repair if it could be made or we would come to a agreement if it couldn't be fixed



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Winner winner. Hope it works out in your favor.
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devastator wrote:Yea bud,tore my SP10 stock off about 8-10 years ago to put on a shurshot from an 1187 and the whole bolt deal and recoil spring was rusted ,not bad though!!
was it a bolt on process?
or did you have to do anything to get it to fit?

I seem to remember someone on the nwtf forum posting up pictures and I would like to do it to my SP10
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WV Ridge Reaper wrote:Just a update,I made it back down the road to work today and stopped at cableas.I bought the reciver and stock along.

I walked in empty handed and told them what the problem was and the guy told me to bring him the whole gun put together and they would send it out to see what could be done.

He said they would need the whole gun in case they would have to test fire it so I will get everything back together when I get home and drop it off.

He said they would eat the cost on a repair if it could be made or we would come to a agreement if it couldn't be fixed

Great! That speaks well for Cabelas :thumbup:

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hoobilly wrote:
devastator wrote:Yea bud,tore my SP10 stock off about 8-10 years ago to put on a shurshot from an 1187 and the whole bolt deal and recoil spring was rusted ,not bad though!!
was it a bolt on process?
or did you have to do anything to get it to fit?

I seem to remember someone on the nwtf forum posting up pictures and I would like to do it to my SP10
It took some work but made it fit,i remember having to hollow out the long rod hole with i think a 3/4 " bit and had to use some bigger nuts with washers over the rod to use as spacers to get the nut back on,then had to file down something can't remember to get the recoil pad to fit purfect.Wasn't a very hard job at all.Once done there was a small gap between stock and receiver that i used silicon to seal,it was actually not very hard.I found out on og how to do most of it.Sorry,wasn't 8-10 years ago.
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devastator wrote:
hoobilly wrote:
devastator wrote:Yea bud,tore my SP10 stock off about 8-10 years ago to put on a shurshot from an 1187 and the whole bolt deal and recoil spring was rusted ,not bad though!!
was it a bolt on process?
or did you have to do anything to get it to fit?

I seem to remember someone on the nwtf forum posting up pictures and I would like to do it to my SP10
It took some work but made it fit,i remember having to hollow out the long rod hole with i think a 3/4 " bit and had to use some bigger nuts with washers over the rod to use as spacers to get the nut back on,then had to file down something can't remember to get the recoil pad to fit purfect.Wasn't a very hard job at all.Once done there was a small gap between stock and receiver that i used silicon to seal,it was actually not very hard.I found out on og how to do most of it.Sorry,wasn't 8-10 years ago.
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Sooo I got the gun back,they fixed it.Here are some pics of the old parts they sent back..As you can see it took some force because they broke the nut

I'm cleaner/lube er up good might shoot it a few times and stick it in the closet


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What's a person got to do to change the spring out in the tube ? I see there is a pin,does it get punched out ?


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Im pretty sure it a roll pin that you just tap out with a punch.
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Good to see they took care of the problem for you.
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