TSS Long Shots
- Stinky J Picklestein
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All of this reminds me...I made a decoy out of TSS last year. It's heavy as sh#t, but it brings in birds from miles away...much farther than factory decoys.
- Stinky J Picklestein
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I have a similar excuse for using Viagra.Jamey wrote:...but rather had allowed me to do it at my normal range with a smaller bore gun.
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Stinky J Picklestein wrote:I have a similar excuse for using Viagra.Jamey wrote:...but rather had allowed me to do it at my normal range with a smaller bore gun.
That Viagra help Stiffin up your TSS load haha
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snapper1982 wrote:I am so tired of hear/reading that is not about the kill from hunters. It is such a load of Bull. It is all about the kill. If it wasn't then you wouldn't be hunting and spending money on all the stuff for hunting when you could go out and watch and interact with the animals while not carrying a weapon in an attempt to KILL the animal. People need to stop trying to justify hunting by saying it ain't about the kill. I am a hunter and it is about the kill. I am out there to kill and not to just watch. If I want to watch I wouldn't have spent $1000 on a gun. I would have spent the money on a camera and my tag money on a store turkey.
Oh, it's definitely about the kill, for me. I love mashing a turkey's face and kill plenty of them. I just don't want it to be easier. I try to do more, with less. What I love about turkey hunting is that it's about the most challenging hunting that my part of the world has to offer...until you add all the "crutches". If I employed all the crutches and gadgets available to my turkey hunting, I feel pretty sure that I could tag out(5 in SC) in 5 days or less. That would not be fun, to me.
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Jamey I completely agree about the crippling. I won't shoot further just to try and hope it will kill.
MKW my post was not intended toward you it was solely intended to address what I quoted.
MKW my post was not intended toward you it was solely intended to address what I quoted.
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MKW wrote:
Oh, it's definitely about the kill, for me. I love mashing a turkey's face and kill plenty of them. I just don't want it to be easier. I try to do more, with less. What I love about turkey hunting is that it's about the most challenging hunting that my part of the world has to offer...until you add all the "crutches". If I employed all the crutches and gadgets available to my turkey hunting, I feel pretty sure that I could tag out(5 in SC) in 5 days or less. That would not be fun, to me.
its all about the kill for me too
I love the mountain hunting in Ky
I don't have time to scout so every trip down there its going in blind.
if newbies watch the hunting videos and listen to all the bs on the Facebook forums, they would think longbeards out to 60+ yards and using a blind or fanning to get the drop on a gobbler
there is so much more to offer than that stuff.
thankfully I have been blessed to learn and adapt
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LOL...I can't argue with that.timbrhuntr wrote:The problem is that nobody is asking you for your opinion most of the time but you like to give it anyways and mostly on subjects like this so when you say you aren't knocking anyone's choice it really rings hollow !
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Not me. There is a difference in a hunter and killer. Numbers don't mean squat to me and I deff don't hunt to please anyone else. If I wanted to kill I would just use the rifle. I like crushing heads like the next guy and if I could hunt 5+ states I would shoot everyone and go on to the next one but spring is my busy time so I can't get away that long but can hunt till midmorning every day and being on the Virginia and Tennessee line I can hunt both full season. I will tag out in Tenn after 3 weeks (if I can find the birds) but not the first two tho. I can hunt there on Sunday and in the evenings but not here so it gives me an extra day a week to hunt. It's also closer than my Virginia spots.snapper1982 wrote:I am so tired of hear/reading that is not about the kill from hunters. It is such a load of Bull. It is all about the kill. If it wasn't then you wouldn't be hunting and spending money on all the stuff for hunting when you could go out and watch and interact with the animals while not carrying a weapon in an attempt to KILL the animal. People need to stop trying to justify hunting by saying it ain't about the kill. I am a hunter and it is about the kill. I am out there to kill and not to just watch. If I want to watch I wouldn't have spent $1000 on a gun. I would have spent the money on a camera and my tag money on a store turkey.appalachianassassin wrote:im with mkw. I feel that turkey hunting has evolved in a bad way. but, for me its about the experience. not the kill itself. i love to talk to the birds. learn from them. with the turkey hunting methods of today a guy can kill 100 longbeards and never learn a thing about turkey hunting.MKW wrote:Yep, turkeys are stupid creatures. They are actually too easy to kill to need all this stuff. But, as dumb as they are, folks still have trouble killing them with out all these tents, strutters, and extra long range shot. Makes me laugh.
It's not like letting a 170" deer walk that you may never see again or only a few times in a life time. A 2 or 3 year old bird is a dime a dozen. Granted you can't tell the age till he's in your hand but that doesn't bother me. No difference in guys who let Jake's walk imo. It's not always about the kill and if people want to throw the bull shat flag that's fine. My friends, families, and co workers know me and how eat up I am with a stupid bird and they don't understand either lol
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It is about everything leading up to and including the kill and memories made and lessons learned.
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See that there is what I like about you ! No matter how hard I try I just can't get to ya !MKW wrote:LOL...I can't argue with that.timbrhuntr wrote:The problem is that nobody is asking you for your opinion most of the time but you like to give it anyways and mostly on subjects like this so when you say you aren't knocking anyone's choice it really rings hollow !
But I'll keep trying that goes for you too Hal !
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Actually last year I did that a few days with a tag in my pocket.. It was enlightening to have them come in and see how they react without taking the first shot presented.. One day on my first two setups I called birds into 25-30 yards and just filmed as I left the gun in the truck.. On that day however I called a buddy with a tag and we went to another property and killed one. I enjoy killing them as much as anyone but once the trigger is pulled its kinda anti climatic for me..snapper1982 wrote:
I am so tired of hear/reading that is not about the kill from hunters. It is such a load of Bull. It is all about the kill. If it wasn't then you wouldn't be hunting and spending money on all the stuff for hunting when you could go out and watch and interact with the animals while not carrying a weapon in an attempt to KILL the animal. People need to stop trying to justify hunting by saying it ain't about the kill. I am a hunter and it is about the kill. I am out there to kill and not to just watch. If I want to watch I wouldn't have spent $1000 on a gun. I would have spent the money on a camera and my tag money on a store turkey.
From what I hear one of the most knowledgeable hunters in the country only hunts with camera these days.
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I'm in it for the sun rises and the tweedy birds. And if a gobbler ruins all that by making a lot of racket I'll shoot him. Oh, and decoys and blinds suck!
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That nasty TSS forced me to shoot this tom this afternoon at the extremely long range of 15 yds.
Shame on me...I'm embarrassed.
Shame on me...I'm embarrassed.
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Wow ! Nice gun, nice bird and nice call = jealous !
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That's awesome Jamey, great pic!
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I'm in it to win it like Yzerman. The kill is a part of it but not all of it. The sights and sounds of Spring turkey season are thrill enough for me most times. Sure I don't like wasting my time and try my best to kill one every time but I don't go home mad when I dont. I go home having spent a great day in the woods. Sometimes hunters get caught up too much in the kill and lose sight of why we do this. In today's fast paced world of turkey hunting, most of the newbies don't wanna put any effort into it, they just wanna kill and they want it right then. To me it's kinda sad.
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Jamey, I can't wait to kill one with my Yildiz. You and Dale are killing me....
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TSS Long Shots
Is yildiz the actual brand name of gun
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make no mistake. I love killing em. I can only kill 6 per year(I don't have time to travel) and I will get my 6. all of which will come straight down the gun barrel gobblin his fool head off. if this not be the case I will not shoot him..... until tomorrow
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Man that must be nice!appalachianassassin wrote:make no mistake. I love killing em. I can only kill 6 per year(I don't have time to travel) and I will get my 6. all of which will come straight down the gun barrel gobblin his fool head off. if this not be the case I will not shoot him..... until tomorrow
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I haven't had one do that since about 60 birds ago.appalachianassassin wrote:make no mistake. I love killing em. I can only kill 6 per year(I don't have time to travel) and I will get my 6. all of which will come straight down the gun barrel gobblin his fool head off. if this not be the case I will not shoot him..... until tomorrow
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I will throw my opinion out there as well,,,
Slopster's 3 Reasons Guys Shoot TSS Shot (in no particular order):
1. Ridiculous pellet counts due to being able to use very small physical shot size (#8 shot and smaller) that possesses kinetic energy levels of large lead shot.
2. Penetration; plain and simple
3. Longer effective kill range (whether intended or not; it is what it is)
4th reason is probably because of the admiration and respect we internet hunters (self included) have for the extensive testing, data, pictures, load development started most likely by Hawglips Hal.
All good things IMO but I do wish there was a "handloader's way" to get guys to improve their calling and tactics with an incentive (like TSS is to shotshell performance).
Slopster's Number 1 Reason He Loves the TSS Crowd:
1. TSS handloaders actually shoot and pattern their shotguns PRIOR TO entering the field! I simply cannot express how much GOOD this does for the sport of turkey hunting and hunter SAFETY!
Keep on keepin' on TSS Handloaders! Slopster
Slopster's 3 Reasons Guys Shoot TSS Shot (in no particular order):
1. Ridiculous pellet counts due to being able to use very small physical shot size (#8 shot and smaller) that possesses kinetic energy levels of large lead shot.
2. Penetration; plain and simple
3. Longer effective kill range (whether intended or not; it is what it is)
4th reason is probably because of the admiration and respect we internet hunters (self included) have for the extensive testing, data, pictures, load development started most likely by Hawglips Hal.
All good things IMO but I do wish there was a "handloader's way" to get guys to improve their calling and tactics with an incentive (like TSS is to shotshell performance).
Slopster's Number 1 Reason He Loves the TSS Crowd:
1. TSS handloaders actually shoot and pattern their shotguns PRIOR TO entering the field! I simply cannot express how much GOOD this does for the sport of turkey hunting and hunter SAFETY!
Keep on keepin' on TSS Handloaders! Slopster
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Slopster, good points. but there are other big reasons that factor into the preference for TSS:
1) lighter loads, less recoil
2) smaller gauges, lighter weight of gun.
A .410 is no longer a novelty in the turkey woods. My .410 single-shot Yildiz weighs 3 lbs., 9 oz. lock, stock, barrel, sling and red dot. Its payload is 13/16 oz. or 341 # 9.5's. It will put 110 in the 10" ring at 40 yards. Will it beat an 835 tossing 2.25 oz. of TSS 9s? No. But it will compete with a 2.25 oz. load of #4 lead shot out of the 835 and we know how much fun it is to carry and shoot an 835 with that load. .
Gil
1) lighter loads, less recoil
2) smaller gauges, lighter weight of gun.
A .410 is no longer a novelty in the turkey woods. My .410 single-shot Yildiz weighs 3 lbs., 9 oz. lock, stock, barrel, sling and red dot. Its payload is 13/16 oz. or 341 # 9.5's. It will put 110 in the 10" ring at 40 yards. Will it beat an 835 tossing 2.25 oz. of TSS 9s? No. But it will compete with a 2.25 oz. load of #4 lead shot out of the 835 and we know how much fun it is to carry and shoot an 835 with that load. .
Gil
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for some reason I don't believe thathawglips wrote:I haven't had one do that since about 60 birds ago.appalachianassassin wrote:make no mistake. I love killing em. I can only kill 6 per year(I don't have time to travel) and I will get my 6. all of which will come straight down the gun barrel gobblin his fool head off. if this not be the case I will not shoot him..... until tomorrow
El Sicario
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I had a stud Osceola at 70 yards on Tuesday. I'm shooting 12 ga 8x9 2 oz TSS. I didn't even consider shooting him. I would have around 50 yards. Lord knows I wanted to shoot him. BAD. REAL BAD.