nitro or apex...? straight or duplex...?

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trying to decide between a duplex load or straight load. nitro and apex seem to claim that duplex loads hold a tighter core . whats you guys thoughts on this for a 12 gauge? im thinking either a straight load 8 or 9 shot. or duplex 7.5x9 or nitro even has a 8x9.

[Hoobilly]

3” or 3.5”???

[swampchicken]

Straight 9s kill and hold patterns past 70. Do you plan on shooting birds at 80+yds???

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3 1 /2

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cant say i plan on shooting them at 80+ but if it can be done id like to have the missile loaded lol never know for self defense

[Skimerhorn]

I like straight loads best, never had much luck mixing shot

[Turkinator]

The concept in the old lead loads of duplex shot was to try and strike a balance between pattern density and penetration. TSS has changed the rules. With it you get both with one size! I’d go with straight 9s

[Hoobilly]

3 1 /2

If your able to have time and load your own contact Shooter for Tss and the meanest 3.5” load you can make. It’s 2.5oz and can be loaded straight or duplex

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I do need to start loading my own I know. But I'm late about it as usual and wanting to pick up some now. I shot federal last year but they are about 3/16" long and my maxus actually jammed and ripped the brass off the hull

[swampchicken]

I've patterned loads to 80yds and at that range I would use straight 8s but you better know your drop and wind age they really start to come into play at 70+

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At that range does pellet count out weigh 8 lethality

[Hoobilly]

I do need to start loading my own I know. But I'm late about it as usual and wanting to pick up some now. I shot federal last year but they are about 3/16" long and my maxus actually jammed and ripped the brass off the hull

holy cow!
I havent measured my loads. 2.5 oz not sure what the federals are.. 2 1/4?

[Hoobilly]

At that range does pellet count out weigh 8 lethality

duplex loads of mostly 9's with 8's on top are the mean ones

kills them close and far

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Ya fed are 3 1/2" 2 1/4 oz 1200fps ....thought about the apex 3 " 2 1/4 oz 1175fps or nitro 3 " 2 5/16 oz 1230 fps...those 3" load should out shoot a federal 3 1/2"...hard to wrap my head around a 3" shooting farther then a 3 1/2"

[Tide11]

I get good patterns with the nitro duplex. 3 1/2 7.5x9. 2 5/8 load.

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That's the load nitro recommends and if you watch the apex video patterning that small town blend load at 60 pretty incredible

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Does anyone else believe in the theory that duplex loads hold a tighter pattern

[GLS]

The only problem that a duplex load resolves is getting rid of bigger shot you don't need. For instance, I bought 8's before the results were in on 9's. A buddy got interested in TSS and I loaded 1/3 by weight 8's with 2/3rds in 9 and he was happy to get them. Otherwise, duplex loads resolve a problem that doesn't exist. Gil

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Makes sense

[swampchicken]

At that range does pellet count out weigh 8 lethality

You have to have enough killing power in pellet count along with penetration power in each pellet in the pattern.

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I heard alot of different stories and explanations ... but in all honesty at what range can a #9 kill a Turkey?

[swampchicken]

In my real world testing on birds I wouldn't shoot a bird past 70yds with 9s. With 8s they will kill past where I have been able to hold a pattern together.

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That's kind of the way I feel but have had a few people tell me of kills at 90 100 and even 110 ...by no means do I wat to shoot that far but just wondering how far they actually will kill, because I look at a 9 and I'm amazed it can kill at 40 lol

[BrowningGuy88]

I killed one last year with 9.5’s at 58 yards.

I’ve only shot one further and that was with Nitro 2x5x7.

I try to limit to 40, but with my short 1300 and T8.5’s I would pull the trigger at 60.

[swampchicken]

It's my opinion that duplex loads limit your killing range to the smallest shot in the duplex.