tss pattern

[turkeycallin]

Ok guys need some help, i loaded up some of hawglips 12g -2oz 8.5 tss
my gun is a Beretta 391 3" has a 24' barrel,ported, and forcing cone done,
i shot it yesterday with an IC 665 it shot 276 in the 10" and 201 in the 20"
i'am looking for the tightest 10" i can get,like the ones that ya"ll say is to tight to hunt with!
any help would be appreciated!!!!

[hawglips]

Can you post a picture of the pattern?

[Spuriosity]

Can't say that I would change a thing. That pattern will be lethal further than I will shoot.

But crazy as it sounds, you might have to open up the choke a bit to maximize center density. I'm running a ST .675 in my Beretta 686. After trying a ST .665 and ST .680, the .675 yielded the tightest patterns. But the .675 also has a different layout than the .665 and .680, so I don't know if it is the constriction my gun likes or the choke layout. I wanted tight patterns in that barrel for the long stuff since I run lead 7s in the open barrel for the short stuff. But for a single barrel hunting pattern, yours sounds good to me.

[turkeycallin]

So what kind of numbers are you getting out of yr St 665?

[Spuriosity]

So what kind of numbers are you getting out of yr St 665?

Sent back the ST .665, but the .675 that I kept does 347/10 with a 1.625 oz load of 371/oz 9s. I would have to check my load log when I get back home to let you know the numbers on the .665.

[Waddle Whacker]

Can you post a picture of the pattern?

[GOLD HUNTER]

@ 40yds all birds will be dead, dead, dead !!!

looks good 2me

[Waddle Whacker]

@ 40yds all birds will be dead, dead, dead !!!

looks good 2me

But what about @ 41?

[hawglips]

I'd be tempted to run it through a bit more open choke and see what happens. But that core is good to way out there.

[Reloader]

Agreed. Shoot it at 70 yards if you have doubts.

[ICDEDTURKES]

i'am looking for the tightest 10" i can get,like the ones that ya"ll say is to tight to hunt with!

Why?

[GLS]

It has been noted that for each added 10 yards after 40 yards, the pattern density will be 70% of the closer. In other words, the prediction is 128 at 50 and 90 at 60 in the 10" ring. Too thin after 60.

[pedro]

It looks good to me. With those numbers a killing pattern will hold up farther than needed or capable. I can't see going any smaller of a choke.

[Waddle Whacker]

It has been noted that for each added 10 yards after 40 yards, the pattern density will be 70% of the closer. In other words, the prediction is 128 at 50 and 90 at 60 in the 10" ring. Too thin after 60.

I think your math is a little off Gil. 128 isn't 70% of 276. Am I looking at something wrong?

[Johndoe]

It has been noted that for each added 10 yards after 40 yards, the pattern density will be 70% of the closer. In other words, the prediction is 128 at 50 and 90 at 60 in the 10" ring. Too thin after 60.

I think your math is a little off Gil. 128 isn't 70% of 276. Am I looking at something wrong?

Yep 193 at 50
135 at 60

[ICDEDTURKES]

It has been noted that for each added 10 yards after 40 yards, the pattern density will be 70% of the closer. In other words, the prediction is 128 at 50 and 90 at 60 in the 10" ring. Too thin after 60.

I think your math is a little off Gil. 128 isn't 70% of 276. Am I looking at something wrong?

Yep 193 at 50
135 at 60

LOL Thought I was going nuts multipled by .70 and even .30 and deducted, even did his numbers in the 20 inch and did not add up..

Gil no worries math sucks!!!

[turkeycallin]

Hawl, how much opener on choke size would you go? if i was to order say a ST choke ,what you thinking .670,.675,.680 ? i talked to William he"s wanting some input from you "the Master"?? thanks for every one's help, just want to get the best 10" i can !!

[Spuriosity]

Hawl, how much opener on choke size would you go? if i was to order say a ST choke ,what you thinking .670,.675,.680 ? i talked to William he"s wanting some input from you "the Master"?? thanks for every one's help, just want to get the best 10" i can !!

Again, my best patterns in the Beretta barrel was with William's .675. That choke has wad catchers out at the muzzle end of the choke with no longitudinal grooves.

[hawglips]

I'm more of an extra full type guy, looking for more of a 20" than 10" pattern. I'd try something in the .675 range and see what it does. Sometimes a little more open gets tighter...

[GLS]

Wrong thread. Someone shooting Big Stubby XL in the 20 gauge had 184 with his load. My bad. I took too many TSS's today and was a little foggy.

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Gil

[Reloader]

It has been noted that for each added 10 yards after 40 yards, the pattern density will be 70% of the closer. In other words, the prediction is 128 at 50 and 90 at 60 in the 10" ring. Too thin after 60.

I think your math is a little off Gil. 128 isn't 70% of 276. Am I looking at something wrong?

Yep 193 at 50
135 at 60

The bigger TSS doesn't bleed off as much as the 9-sub9 IME. 20%/10 seems about in line.

[Reloader]

In other words, folks don't need huge numbers at 40 for well over 100/10 at 60.

[Johndoe]

Si

[Gooserbat]

I have some 8.5 on order and if I shoot a pattern akin to the one by the op I'll be tickled like a baby in a dry cloth diaper with fresh powder on my cheeks.

[turkeycallin]

ok guys just got me 2 chokes to try from william an .680 and .676 fromTC will let every one know how they pattern !!!! Will see if every one know's what the are talking about LOL